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		<title>By: Freemium: Andrew Dubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freemium: Andrew Dubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/10/09/everyone-wants-to-be-radiohead/" rel="nofollow">http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/10/09/everyone-wants-to-be-radiohead/</a>     page_revision: 0, last_edited: 1221422275|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z (%O ago)  edittags history files print site tools+&nbsp;options   edit sections append backlinks view source parent block rename delete          help  |  terms of service  |  privacy  |  report a bug  |  flag as objectionable   Hosted by Wikidot.com &#8212; get your free wiki now!   Unless stated otherwise Content of this page is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License          Click here to edit contents of this page.     Click here to toggle editing of individual sections of the page (if possible). Watch headings for an &#8220;edit&#8221; link when available.   Append content without editing the whole page source.   Check out how this page has evolved in the past.   If you want to discuss contents of this page &#8211; this is the easiest way to do it.   View and manage file attachments for this page.   A few useful tools to manage this Site.   See pages that link to and include this page.   Change the name (also URL address, possibly the category) of the page.   View wiki source for this page without editing.   View/set parent page (used for creating breadcrumbs and structured layout).   Notify administrators if there is objectionable content in this page.   Something does not work as expected? Find out what you can do.   General Wikidot.com documentation and help section.   Wikidot.com Terms of Service &#8211; what you can, what you should not etc.   Wikidot.com Privacy Policy.        _uff = false; _uacct = &#8220;UA-68540-5&#8243;; _udn=&#8221;wikidot.com&#8221;; urchinTracker(); [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tav</title>
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		<dc:creator>tav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almost a week on and the inevitable fallout has already started.....low quality mp3&#039;s only announced 24 hrs before certain people (stupidly) paid Ã‚Â£40 or more on pre-order.....

one of our bands (the crimea) has had their album up as a free download since may. they have had 60,000   downloads so far and considering their last album (through warners)only sold 8,000, we are viewing it as a huge success. the album is also for sale in the shops here in the uk and has sold a couple of thousand so far. merch sales are up and the band are about to play their biggest headline gig thus far at bush hall, london.

BUT, i wouldn&#039;t recommend this route for everybody. the crimea had nowhere else to go. the media were not interested in them and no label would touch them (8,000 sales). even if they had, i doubt very much that they would be able to get the album into 60,000   homes.

i think this model only works if you have no other options open to you. once you have done it, there&#039;s no going back. i think radiohead fans will probably demand the same model for future albums, so any new label signing the band are going to struggle with that (unless they cut them in on the profits).

we also manage ash, watch this space for their new business model launching next year......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almost a week on and the inevitable fallout has already started&#8230;..low quality mp3&#8217;s only announced 24 hrs before certain people (stupidly) paid Ã‚Â£40 or more on pre-order&#8230;..</p>
<p>one of our bands (the crimea) has had their album up as a free download since may. they have had 60,000   downloads so far and considering their last album (through warners)only sold 8,000, we are viewing it as a huge success. the album is also for sale in the shops here in the uk and has sold a couple of thousand so far. merch sales are up and the band are about to play their biggest headline gig thus far at bush hall, london.</p>
<p>BUT, i wouldn&#8217;t recommend this route for everybody. the crimea had nowhere else to go. the media were not interested in them and no label would touch them (8,000 sales). even if they had, i doubt very much that they would be able to get the album into 60,000   homes.</p>
<p>i think this model only works if you have no other options open to you. once you have done it, there&#8217;s no going back. i think radiohead fans will probably demand the same model for future albums, so any new label signing the band are going to struggle with that (unless they cut them in on the profits).</p>
<p>we also manage ash, watch this space for their new business model launching next year&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the langenfeld : Radiohead Have Made A Record</title>
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		<dc:creator>the langenfeld : Radiohead Have Made A Record</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to express that &quot;Free music&quot; may serve well for the wealthy musician who can afford to give away their music in exchange for massive concert turnout and merch sales$$$, but where does that leave the aspiring new artist?

Despite what some others in the industry believe, not all musicians dream of touring the road for 9 months out of the year to support a career as a glorified t-shirt salesman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to express that &#8220;Free music&#8221; may serve well for the wealthy musician who can afford to give away their music in exchange for massive concert turnout and merch sales$$$, but where does that leave the aspiring new artist?</p>
<p>Despite what some others in the industry believe, not all musicians dream of touring the road for 9 months out of the year to support a career as a glorified t-shirt salesman.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben Keing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruben Keing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many reasons to allow &quot;free&quot; downloads of music. Most of them function as some kind of publicity generator for a further product.

Radiohead are giving away their downloads as 160kbps files. This is the really smart bit. That mp3 compression rate is fine to appraise the content, but many RH fans are audiophiles/audiosnobs and will want the album in it&#039;s better CD and vinyl formats.

Oasis and JK may be hopping on the bandwagon but if they are serious about furthering their careers without the &quot;protection&quot; of a record company they had better have a sound business plan behind the giveaway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many reasons to allow &#8220;free&#8221; downloads of music. Most of them function as some kind of publicity generator for a further product.</p>
<p>Radiohead are giving away their downloads as 160kbps files. This is the really smart bit. That mp3 compression rate is fine to appraise the content, but many RH fans are audiophiles/audiosnobs and will want the album in it&#8217;s better CD and vinyl formats.</p>
<p>Oasis and JK may be hopping on the bandwagon but if they are serious about furthering their careers without the &#8220;protection&#8221; of a record company they had better have a sound business plan behind the giveaway.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Raaphorst &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wat Dubber over het hoofd ziet ivm Radiohead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Raaphorst &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wat Dubber over het hoofd ziet ivm Radiohead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dubber schrijft over de gratis muziek van Radiohead, maar vergeet daarbij een aantal belangrijke [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vincent van Wylick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent van Wylick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why I don&#039;t think this is the end of music:

Isn&#039;t Radiohead also selling a shiny box with a cd in it? Frankly, if I had a choice between a piece of code, vs. a piece of plastic I could show off to my friends (and myself), I would choose the latter. Second, there&#039;s a subtle psychological factor in asking people who want to download the album to at least register with a credit-card. It&#039;s like hanging a sign up, saying &quot;serious people only!&quot;, meaning people who could afford to pay a few bucks. And, last but not least, concerts. I&#039;m pretty sure that Radiohead is sold out, no matter where they go. Isn&#039;t it time to decrease an artist&#039;s reliance on the power of distributors?

And why it might be the end of music:

That said, I do have an alternative scenario. Radiohead&#039;s system only works for established artists. New artists will incur significant recording and promotional costs and will be forced to look for sponsors, and sell their soul away. So yeah, it does feel like a bubble. I am however ignoring the myspace-factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why I don&#8217;t think this is the end of music:</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Radiohead also selling a shiny box with a cd in it? Frankly, if I had a choice between a piece of code, vs. a piece of plastic I could show off to my friends (and myself), I would choose the latter. Second, there&#8217;s a subtle psychological factor in asking people who want to download the album to at least register with a credit-card. It&#8217;s like hanging a sign up, saying &#8220;serious people only!&#8221;, meaning people who could afford to pay a few bucks. And, last but not least, concerts. I&#8217;m pretty sure that Radiohead is sold out, no matter where they go. Isn&#8217;t it time to decrease an artist&#8217;s reliance on the power of distributors?</p>
<p>And why it might be the end of music:</p>
<p>That said, I do have an alternative scenario. Radiohead&#8217;s system only works for established artists. New artists will incur significant recording and promotional costs and will be forced to look for sponsors, and sell their soul away. So yeah, it does feel like a bubble. I am however ignoring the myspace-factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Milton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid live shows will often define an artist and many of those mentioned above are renowned for their ability performing live. Prince, Radiohead and Jamiroquai each put on an exceptional show and write exceptional music. Those two combined are the best place for an artist to focus, and more often than not result in building a respectable fanbase and probable income.
     Flash in the pan music will always exist but longevity is reserved for those with real talent. If the talent extends to the ability to create a marketable, collectible product as in the case of Radiohead; Bonus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid live shows will often define an artist and many of those mentioned above are renowned for their ability performing live. Prince, Radiohead and Jamiroquai each put on an exceptional show and write exceptional music. Those two combined are the best place for an artist to focus, and more often than not result in building a respectable fanbase and probable income.<br />
     Flash in the pan music will always exist but longevity is reserved for those with real talent. If the talent extends to the ability to create a marketable, collectible product as in the case of Radiohead; Bonus!</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shall observe the world of high-profile artists dividing, in the perception of much of the news media at least, into two camps - progressive, generous and sensible folk on one side, greedy corporate sellouts on the other.

We shall also observe many, many greedy sellouts clamboring to position themselves in the progressive camp.

It&#039;s not that hard to tell the difference. So far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shall observe the world of high-profile artists dividing, in the perception of much of the news media at least, into two camps &#8211; progressive, generous and sensible folk on one side, greedy corporate sellouts on the other.</p>
<p>We shall also observe many, many greedy sellouts clamboring to position themselves in the progressive camp.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that hard to tell the difference. So far.</p>
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		<title>By: Marius Bastiansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marius Bastiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Radiohead thing is maybe a right direction when it comes to making music and gaining some profits of it, but for me thereÃ‚Â´s something strange with the Radiohead method as well. Radiohead have the money and the means to provide a shiny discbox deluxe thing to sell as a, have you got the real thing as suppose to the crappy download thing, but independent acts donÃ‚Â´t have the means to do this at all. They have the opportunity to do the same thing as Radiohead, but they &quot;only&quot; have a single cd or vinyl to sell as the &quot;deluxe offering&quot;. I think this is a severely difficult subject and I sometimes feel that we are on a totally wrong path when it comes to music and the whole &quot;what is the music worth&quot; bit. I buy books and most of the time they are more expensive than CDs, but I treasure a piece of music as much as a good book...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Radiohead thing is maybe a right direction when it comes to making music and gaining some profits of it, but for me thereÃ‚Â´s something strange with the Radiohead method as well. Radiohead have the money and the means to provide a shiny discbox deluxe thing to sell as a, have you got the real thing as suppose to the crappy download thing, but independent acts donÃ‚Â´t have the means to do this at all. They have the opportunity to do the same thing as Radiohead, but they &#8220;only&#8221; have a single cd or vinyl to sell as the &#8220;deluxe offering&#8221;. I think this is a severely difficult subject and I sometimes feel that we are on a totally wrong path when it comes to music and the whole &#8220;what is the music worth&#8221; bit. I buy books and most of the time they are more expensive than CDs, but I treasure a piece of music as much as a good book&#8230;</p>
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